<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-598228338802252094</id><updated>2012-01-15T00:42:13.580-05:00</updated><category term='pagan'/><category term='canonical history'/><category term='Postmodernism'/><category term='Traditions'/><category term='gospel'/><category term='relationship'/><category term='translation'/><category term='Revelation'/><category term='grace'/><category term='politics'/><category term='Prophecy'/><category term='Ark'/><category term='government'/><category term='canon'/><category term='philosophy'/><category term='Bible’s Role in History'/><category term='brethern'/><category term='faith'/><category term='service'/><category term='America'/><category term='freedom'/><category term='Hebrew'/><category term='witness'/><category term='New Testament'/><category term='church'/><category term='society'/><category term='Bible'/><category term='slavery'/><category term='history'/><category term='Zeitgeist'/><category term='Spiritual Truth'/><category term='semantics'/><category term='greed'/><category term='Social Impact'/><category term='Heaven'/><category term='prayer'/><title type='text'>Eternal Answers Ministry</title><subtitle type='html'>Whatever the question...  there is an answer.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Eternal Answers Ministry</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03052771297282180503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='22' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_If1j1b_afts/TEGxVIMSGyI/AAAAAAAAAA0/E7CiexLFoKQ/S220/logo4.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>22</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-598228338802252094.post-297112456365499135</id><published>2012-01-15T00:25:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-15T00:42:13.588-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='semantics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Prophecy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hebrew'/><title type='text'>Now THAT's a Sign!</title><content type='html'>ISAIAH 7:14&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Many a &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; secular &amp; Jewish scholar today want to say that this verse actually reads, "The Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a young woman shall conceive &amp; bear a son..."&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Well, firstly, that is NOT how it was understood for the hundreds of years prior to the rise of Christianity.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The LXX, written some 300 years before Christ, clearly uses the word virgin.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This was the classical Jewish interpretation for at least 1000 years after Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Then, in the 10th c. AD, in reaction against the dominance of Christian culture in Europe, the Masoretes began saying that, "No, it only means young girl, not virgin," &amp; atheists &amp; secularist have latched onto that interpretation ever since, as it fits comfortably in with their view of scripture.  This is because if this reads "young girl" then Matthew got it wrong when he used it as prophetic support for Mary's virgin birth.  That would mean there are errors in the NT, which means there is no inspired text; the Bible is just a book of man, not the Word of God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;However, the facts do not support such a position.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Firstly, the point made above -- the "young girl" interpretation was made in reaction to its use by Christians.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;That makes the veracity of the interpretation suspect.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Secondly, simply read the context.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;God is to send a sign.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The revisionists would have us believe that the great sign from God will be that an unnamed woman will have a child in the normal, everyday fashion.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This hardly sounds like a sign!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;What do you think?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Is a girl getting pregnant so extraordinary an event that you would say, "Oh! Look!  A sign from God! A woman is pregnant!"&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;That hardly seems tenable.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;You're left with asking, "Where's the sign?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;His name?"&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;That hardly seems significant.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;She's going to give him a name.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Oh!  Wow!  Must be from God!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;No one would ever name their kid "Emmanuel" after seeing it in Isaiah ... noooo!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;That's not a sign from God.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Any woman could give their kid this name!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;A sign from God has to be seen as coming only by Him, made possible only by Him.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Getting pregnant &amp; giving a kid a name would hardly stand up to that test!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Now, a virgin having a child -- that's extraordinary.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It would also set this anonymous woman apart from all other pregnant women.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;A perfect creation in the womb of woman, ex nihilo by only the Word of God . . . now, THAT's a sign!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Of the two interpretations, only the classic "virgin" interpretation is supported by the context &amp; the intention of the text.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Remember, there is no dispute that this word can &amp; often does mean "maiden" or "virgin."&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It can also mean "young woman."&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;What determines its use is context.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The context here is that of a miracle, a sign from God, &amp;, sorry, a girl getting pregnant simply does not qualify as a valid interpretation in the context.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;"Virgin" does.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;So, Matthew uses the mainstream interpretation of his time; an interpretation that was classical, going back at least hundreds, if not thousands of years; an interpretation that is readily found in all rabbinical literature prior to the rejection of the Messiah by the Jewish rabbinical elite.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Only THEN did it have to mean something else, anything else other than they were wrong in crucifying their own Messiah.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The case is laid bare.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;You decide.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/598228338802252094-297112456365499135?l=eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/feeds/297112456365499135/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2012/01/now-thats-sign.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/297112456365499135'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/297112456365499135'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2012/01/now-thats-sign.html' title='Now THAT&apos;s a Sign!'/><author><name>Lauren</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17749938488410944280</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kGupLHKAMB0/TZpio8LriiI/AAAAAAAAAnI/gOoA7wuF9qc/s220/me.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-598228338802252094.post-6130065497846283057</id><published>2010-10-21T19:56:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2010-10-21T19:59:10.493-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Zeitgeist'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='pagan'/><title type='text'>Didya E'er T'ink</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This may&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; be my shortest blog entry as it contains only one salient but, I think, profound thought &amp; it takes the form of a question.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It has come to my attention through such internet viral videos as Zeitgeist &amp; the whining of the pathetically parrot-billed squawking puppets of atheist apologetics that Christianity was nothing more than a repackaging of some very “well-known” (their words, not mine) pagan myths such as the stories of Mithra &amp; Osiris.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Now, putting aside the hopelessly shallow, myopic &amp; self-serving “scholarship” offered to support this fable, let us consider one &amp; only one profoundly revealing point..&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Paul, and the subsequent churches he seeded throughout the PAGAN world from Rome, to Corinth to Greece &amp; beyond, speaking to &amp; converting thousands, perhaps millions of PAGANS from their PAGAN Roots which for some ran deep into the generations of their families, let us consider the following question:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;If these devout PAGANS were merely hearing a variation on THEIR OWN “Well known” stories, providing they had IQ’s exceeding that of the average parsnip, rather than be converted to Christianity, might they not say, “Hey! We’ve already got THAT “well known” story in our repertoire!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Jesus? Jesus?! We don’t need no stinkin’ Jesus!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We’ve got Mithra/ Osiris/ (insert favorite pagan god brought back from the dead here).&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;WHY CHANGE?”&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;In short, if I may be allowed a follow-up question, why so many converts among PAGANS who supposedly already had this OLD-HAT story “well known” for supposedly thousands of years?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Sounds strikingly double fishy to me.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;What about you?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Hmmmm…?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Think about it.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;I’ll get back to you!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Challenges?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Questions?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Gripes?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Groans?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Let me know what you think! [&lt;a href="mailto:questions@eternalanswersministry.org"&gt;questions@eternalanswersministry.org&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/598228338802252094-6130065497846283057?l=eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/feeds/6130065497846283057/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/10/didya-eer-tink.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/6130065497846283057'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/6130065497846283057'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/10/didya-eer-tink.html' title='Didya E&apos;er T&apos;ink'/><author><name>Eternal Answers Ministry</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03052771297282180503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='22' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_If1j1b_afts/TEGxVIMSGyI/AAAAAAAAAA0/E7CiexLFoKQ/S220/logo4.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-598228338802252094.post-6324068572589418031</id><published>2010-09-13T18:25:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2010-09-13T18:25:48.934-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='canonical history'/><title type='text'>DeuteroPaul</title><content type='html'>Text: I Tim 5:1-2&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1 REBUKE not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;&lt;br /&gt;2 The elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Some theologians&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &amp; scholars (post-Bower, Ehrman , Brown et. al.) argue that Paul can not possibly be the author of I &amp; II Timothy or Titus since all these "Pastoral Epistles" mention "elders."&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;They attribute these works to a later period &amp; label the author as "DeuteroPaul" ie "Second Paul."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The argument goes that the New Testament churches were Spirit-driven anarchistic entities that did not use elders.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Later, post-Clement of Rome &amp; onward, a more monarchical, authoritarian structure developed.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Therefore, these three letters must be from that later period, not from Paul.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The problem with this argument is that it begs the question ie it assumes its answer in its premise.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It is invalid to use the New Testament as evidence of a theory then use that same theory to invalidate part of the New Testament!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Doing so makes the argument invalidate its own proof!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Other weak argument has been offered in the form of vocabulary analysis observing that "Paul" uses different words than he does in his other letters.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This is very weak because, as Paul is addressing very different issues in Romans, Corinthians, etc. than he is in these three letters.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;By way of example, if you were writing a letter to the editor about prostitution downtown, you would use very different vocabulary from when you write your little brother or sister about getting their first job (unless of course, it is as a prostitute!).&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This is very parallel to Paul's situation: the other epistles are for a general audience; these are personal.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The others address problems to be corrected in society or in the church; these are to exhort individuals.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The list of differences continues &amp; greatly weakens this argument, too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;All in all, the arguments for "DeuteroPaul" are very, very weak &amp; can probably be ignored as generated by an a priori agenda that does not include honestly evaluating the integrity of the New Testament.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Up against 2000 years of textual pedigree, style examination, contemporary correspondence &amp; many other tests by which we can analyze these letters, the "Second Paul" arguments are less than second rate.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/598228338802252094-6324068572589418031?l=eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/feeds/6324068572589418031/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/09/deuteropaul.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/6324068572589418031'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/6324068572589418031'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/09/deuteropaul.html' title='DeuteroPaul'/><author><name>Eternal Answers Ministry</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03052771297282180503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='22' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_If1j1b_afts/TEGxVIMSGyI/AAAAAAAAAA0/E7CiexLFoKQ/S220/logo4.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-598228338802252094.post-3730262800816494620</id><published>2010-09-11T21:14:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2010-09-11T21:14:01.219-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Social Impact'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='canonical history'/><title type='text'>Church Bureaucracy &amp; the Individual Believer</title><content type='html'>TEXT: Matt 18:20&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: #006600"&gt;&amp;nbsp;there am I&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;in the midst of them.“&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Protestantism relies&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; very heavily (some might say too heavily) upon this promise.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Reading the writings of the Church Fathers from the generation immediately following the time of the apostles, it seems at first glance that many, even revered, names in the early church too often to forget this promise.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This in not the case.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Their interpretation was that as Christ sent the Holy Ghost to comfort believers (John 14:16), so did He ordain bishops for the church to stand in His stead.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Thus, the presence of the bishop was seen as the fulfillment of this promise.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Protestants who seek to return to the practices of the "early church" must recognize that this movement toward a formal ecclesiastical structure modeled on monarchy was a strong &amp; relatively early development within the church.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It cannot be easily dismissed that many early church leaders, some personal students of the 12 directly, approved of &amp; strongly championed the institution of a formal church structure utilizing little, if any, democratic input from the laity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;For instance, the aged &amp; revered martyr, Bishop Ignatius of Antioch, saw the person of the bishop as this promised presence of Christ Himself, reasoning that one must have as much respect for the messenger as one has for the One that sent him.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Therefore, he saw it as unlawful for anyone to baptize or "make love" (in the Greek it's not as kinky as it seems in English!) ie hold a "love feast"&lt;sup&gt;1&lt;/sup&gt; without the bishop present else, as Ignatius sees it, Christ is not present.&lt;sup&gt;2&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Firstly, it should be observed that being "early" is not an automatic correlation to being "right."&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;At first, Christians under the direction of the apostles practiced a form of communism that Karl Marx would have readily recognized, where all property, food &amp; assets were held in common &amp; work was volunteered by the able (Acts 2:44-47).&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Predictably, everybody ate heartily but no one wanted to work to grow more food (2 Thess 3:10 &amp; 12)!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Eventually, Paul would dispense with this communist schema declaring, "if any would not work, neither should he eat" (2 Thess 3:11) &amp; that each should "eat their own bread" (2 Thess 3:12).&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Suddenly, there was an eager workforce enough to grow plenty of food for all.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;There is hardly a Christian today who would advocate communism &amp; yet, such was the practice of the Biblical early church.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This, then, is the classic example of "early" not being "right."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Secondly, it must be recognized that how much formal structure should be attached to the Church has been a plaguing issue since the departure of the apostles.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It is a subject fraught with the allure of power, the trap of excess riches &amp; ultimately a responsibility to God which, in the snare of worldly temptation, can be too easily dismissed &amp; forgotten.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;In the final analysis, Luther observed, it is the individual "sheep" that is responsible for recognizing, discerning &amp; responding to the voice of the true "Shepherd" (John Ch 10; see blog post on 10:1-5, "Emergence of the Individual").&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;How the bureaucracy of any given church organization argues for its preference would seem to be a more worldly matter than an individual believer need internalize for such arguments are all but irrelevant.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;For the individual, Ignatius notwithstanding, there is this promise from the Lord of all creation, that even if all one can do is find fellowship with but one other believer, the King of the Universe is with them in spirit, but as a body ie the Body of Christ ie &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;The&lt;/i&gt; Church&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;1&lt;/i&gt; probably a reference to Holy Communion aka the Lord's Supper or Lord's Table&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;2&lt;/i&gt; Epistle of Ignatius to the Smyrnaeans, Ch. 8; St. Ignatius of Antioch, (c.AD110); http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0109.htm accessed 8/9/10&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/598228338802252094-3730262800816494620?l=eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/feeds/3730262800816494620/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/09/church-bureaucracy-individual-believer.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/3730262800816494620'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/3730262800816494620'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/09/church-bureaucracy-individual-believer.html' title='Church Bureaucracy &amp; the Individual Believer'/><author><name>Eternal Answers Ministry</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03052771297282180503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='22' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_If1j1b_afts/TEGxVIMSGyI/AAAAAAAAAA0/E7CiexLFoKQ/S220/logo4.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-598228338802252094.post-3950411508215132567</id><published>2010-08-19T18:40:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2010-08-19T18:58:37.196-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Social Impact'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='canonical history'/><title type='text'>The Christian Development of "Self" in Western Tradition</title><content type='html'>Text: John Chapter 10&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia; font-size: 180%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The development&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt; of the "self" as we understand it in western society is principally the Christian notion of "self."&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It does not extend back into the pagan philosophers preceding the Christian era nor is it the outgrowth of the European Enlightenment.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Rather it was appropriated by Enlightenment thinkers trading on the collateral handed to them by Christian humanism.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Nor is the notion of self to be found in any other religious or philosophical tradition outside of where it has been imported from the west.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We shall endeavor in this article to survey the development of the western self both historically and philosophically, seeing such roots firmly entrenched in the Christian tradition.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We will conclude with a brief examination of whether the self as we know it can survive being untethered from those Christian roots.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Our first order of business must be to define what we mean by "the western self" and how it is to be distinguished from the self found in other cultures and derived from other philosophies.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The western self as we know it today is a deeply personal concept derived from the inner workings of an individual human being.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It has value, musings, development and stature over, above, and independent of the society and culture around it.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This is not to say that it is not influenced or shaped by the culture of which it is a part.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Rather it transcends or at least has the ability to transcend any cultural or societal pressures exerted upon it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Indeed, properly understood in western tradition, the self is seen as the very engine and generator of culture and society.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Thus the self forms the kernel of western society artistically, politically, in fact in all ways endemic and necessary to the development of civilization.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Civilization is seen as the expression of self collectively. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Thus in this definition, we can see how the western concept of self differs greatly from that of ancient society and cultures outside of the Christian tradition.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;In all cultures outside a western influence, both ancient or modern, the self is always seen in a relational attitude not as an independent entity.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The self as a module of society or the self as a module of culture or of the family or of the tribe.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The self is never seen nor developed as an independent entity, one capable of expression in decent society.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The self always exists in the service of another entity be it the tribe, or the religion, or the state.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This, then, helps the westerner to understand what informs the concept of the individual seen as honored by human sacrifice.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We see as barbaric what the Aztecs did to their citizens --cutting their hearts out sometimes by the thousands and throwing them often still beating down the steps of their sacred Temples.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Yet, one must see it from the viewpoint of an individual indoctrinated into this other concept of self --the self as existing for the purposes of the religion, existing to please the gods, existing for the sole purpose of feeding the society.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Personal fulfillment is seen exclusively within this framework.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Thus, what greater honor than to have one's heart given to the gods and, that heart seen as worthy sacrifice, bringing peace or bounty or victory in war two one's people?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;There was a game played by south American Indians in pre-Colombian days.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It was something of a cross between soccer and basketball except instead of a soccer ball, the head of a slain enemy was used.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Stone hoops were built high into the stadium walls and, as best as we can tell, the "ball" was kicked around with points scored by getting it into the hoops.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Here, however, is the salient point for our purposes: the winning team had their heads chopped off as a sacrifice to the gods. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;That bears repeating for the western reader: the winners got their heads chopped off as a sacrifice.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We would wonder, "Who the heck would want to win this game?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Why enter into such competition?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;And why are on the earth would you attempt to win!?"&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;And yet they did!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;With enthusiasm!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;No one had to force them into the competition.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;And each side eagerly and fiercely competed to win on no less a level than is seen in any of today's most  professional team sport.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Why?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Because the self was in complete subjugation and derived its sole purpose for existence from the collective.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Society gave the individual worth.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;There was no other reason for existence independent of  one's relationships.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Thus, those socialist proponents who wish to see the self as deriving value from its service to the greater whole are actually advocating a return to an ancient and primitive concept of self.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Far from being "progressive," they are regressive to the concept of "self"; something with which we will deal later.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;There are those who would like to see the western self as extending from the Greek philosophers raised in the first democracies.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This is a failure to read the work of those philosophers and history together.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It is true that Greek democracy utilized the individual vote as its basis for making the decisions of the whole.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;However the vote was not extended by any means to all members of society.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Fully half of that society was excluded by failure to extend a vote to women.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Neither were slaves nor free immigrants given the vote.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;When actually totaled, an extremely small minority were given suffrage.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The concept of self in these societies was still seen as in service to the greater whole.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;To this end, the majority of individuals could be excluded from determining their fate or status in society.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;These things were determined by a majority vote of a non-Republican, non-representative minority.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;One need only read Plato's concept of the ideal society as expressed in his quintessential work The Republic.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;In this detailed recitation of how the ideal society should function, Plato demonstrates and rationalizes how it is the state's responsibility to determine the vocation of individuals from birth.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Children born of warriors who in their youth demonstrate an aptitude for being a warrior are chosen by the state to be soldiers.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Those born of academics who in their youth demonstrate an aptitude for academics are assigned to be teachers, and so on.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;An individual who rebels against the state's decision on their choice of career is banished; if the rebellion is deemed criminal, the offender is executed.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Thus all disagreements with the state on this and many other points are deemed in and of themselves to be subversive to the interest of the state, an interest which in all cases trumps the needs and desires of the individual who is but a module with which to build the state. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Marriage, too, was seen as an instrument of, for and therefore to be exercised by the state.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;As the state required strong soldiers, strong women were to be married to strong men.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;As the state required teachers for its youth, smart women were to be married to smart men.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;In fact, in an age before genetics, operating on its own pre-Darwinian notion of social evolution, Plato does not seem all that far from Hitler.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;He has more in common with Nazi concepts of racial purity than with those of the Western self.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Indeed, as in Nazi Germany, marriage was an institution granted as a privilege by the state.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;One could not be married without license from the state after the proper officials had determined the proposed union's benefit to the state.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Marriage for love or individual preference was seen as a vile expression subversive to the interests of the state.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This concept of marriage is almost universal in the ancient world.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Arranged marriages are still the norm in many cultures that have resisted influence from the west.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;In western society, it was this crisis between individual duty to the state and the "zeal of the organs" in the service of the individual that formed the basis of the tragedy of Tristan and Isolde, probably the first expression of this conflict in world literature.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This brings us to another point, namely from whence do these dynamic shifts in thinking within western society come?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Rarely do they spring from philosophers or academicians.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Rather, they flow from the minds and pens, the hands, eyes and brushes of artists, poets, and writers of both fiction and popularized nonfiction.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Neither Leonardo nor Hume were academics nor were Hemingway or Picasso philosophers.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Yet each had profound impact on the popular conception of the self in western society in their respective times.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The late philosopher Joseph Campbell, expert in mythology and comparative religion, correctly identified the artist, poet, storyteller as the root of all social and philosophical change within a culture.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;While academics and philosophers study and expound upon change, it always seems to be the cultural black sheep that is the dynamic engine of change and progress.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This accounts for the explosion of change and progress seen in western society as opposed to others.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Thus, those who would see western progress as the result of economic disparity with the west reaping the natural resources of others worldwide have got it all wrong.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It is not economic disparity but spiritual disparity that has marked the upward trend of western society.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Our spiritual base has promoted the value of the self.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Having dissected off from whence the self did not come, in my next entry I will present the seed from which it did spring and provide discourse on the cradle in which it was nurtured.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/598228338802252094-3950411508215132567?l=eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/feeds/3950411508215132567/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/08/christian-development-of-self-in.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/3950411508215132567'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/3950411508215132567'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/08/christian-development-of-self-in.html' title='The Christian Development of &quot;Self&quot; in Western Tradition'/><author><name>Eternal Answers Ministry</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03052771297282180503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='22' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_If1j1b_afts/TEGxVIMSGyI/AAAAAAAAAA0/E7CiexLFoKQ/S220/logo4.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-598228338802252094.post-2617877009690459563</id><published>2010-08-09T19:29:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2010-08-09T19:29:30.745-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Social Impact'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='canonical history'/><title type='text'>Emergence of the Individual</title><content type='html'>TEXT: John 10: 1-5&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;" VERILY, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the&lt;br /&gt;sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.&lt;br /&gt;2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.&lt;br /&gt;3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth&lt;br /&gt;his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.&lt;br /&gt;4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the&lt;br /&gt;sheep follow him: for they know his voice.&lt;br /&gt;5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know&lt;br /&gt;not the voice of strangers. "&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia; font-size: 180%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Martin Luther&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt; turned this into a powerful argument for Protestantism.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;His grasping of this passage in part was that the sheep must judge whether or not the voice they follow is that of their Good Shepherd.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Luther's reasoning was that this being the case, every man must have the right to read the Bible for themselves, decide &amp;amp; pass judgment upon the edicts of pope &amp;amp; church, the voice of the Shepherd being the higher authority.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;If such edicts be from that higher authority, then they should follow; if they be the voice of strangers, then flee.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;"For a hat of pearls &amp;amp; a staff of silver does not make a shepherd or a bishop, but his office does depend on his care of the sheep," ie the rights of government are derived from the authority of the governed.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;He saw this authority of the individual to "knock all edicts of all the papists &amp;amp; all the councils to the ground" as divinely bestowed, never to be rescinded.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;He saw it also in Christ's warning in Mt 7:15 to beware wolves in sheep's clothing ie we, the people, have the right to judge our leaders, spiritual or otherwise.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;If we are obliged to follow whatever authority would pretend to lead us, be they shepherd or wolf, then we have not the authority to judge &amp;amp; Christ's warning would be in vain for we would have no option to act upon our judgment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This is a hard argument to break.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It formed one of the cornerstones for recognition of each individual's right to pass such judgments as "endowed by their Creator."&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Though Martin Luther explicitly stated that removal of this "sword" from the papacy by the people must not be by force, by its full flowering in the 18th century, the concept of the individual under God would overturn the interests of states with revolutions in the America's &amp;amp; Europe.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Human society would be forever changed by a whole strain of thought extending from the acts initiated by one man's interpretation of one Bible verse.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;So must it ever be, for without this kind of fundamental, over riding foundation of higher authority, there can be no human rights.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/598228338802252094-2617877009690459563?l=eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/feeds/2617877009690459563/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/08/emergence-of-individual.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/2617877009690459563'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/2617877009690459563'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/08/emergence-of-individual.html' title='Emergence of the Individual'/><author><name>Eternal Answers Ministry</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03052771297282180503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='22' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_If1j1b_afts/TEGxVIMSGyI/AAAAAAAAAA0/E7CiexLFoKQ/S220/logo4.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-598228338802252094.post-2071286296333234234</id><published>2010-08-01T16:01:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2010-08-01T16:01:52.962-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='slavery'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='greed'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='grace'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Spiritual Truth'/><title type='text'>Lessons Forgotten</title><content type='html'>TEXT: Amos 2:6&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"6 ¶ Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of Israel, and for four, I will not turn away&lt;span style="background-color: #006600"&gt; the punishment &lt;/span&gt;thereof; because they sold the righteous for silver, and the poor for a pair of shoes;"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Greed is&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; a killer.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Even though Israel was a wealthy &amp; prosperous nation, there were still those that wanted more; more to the point that they would engage in the trade of human beings, prohibited by God, practiced by the Canaanites that surrounded them.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Obviously all memories of their experience of slavery in Egypt were now lost in the minds of the people, but never so in the mind of God.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Again, it would be hypocritical of God to condemn those around Israel trading in the slaves but not to bring down justice on Israel for the same actions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Ultimately, this must go back to the lessons of Egypt that seem to have been neglected.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;In Egypt, on the night of the Passover, there was nothing special about being a Jew that would save you.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;There was nothing special about being Egyptian that would condemn you.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;All hinged on the blood of the lamb.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;If you had it over the entrance to your home, you were saved.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This simple lesson which was commanded that they remember, commanded that they pass it along to their children commanded that it be as frontlets to their eyes, were forgotten in Israel.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Once one forgets how to ask for grace, one falls from grace.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/598228338802252094-2071286296333234234?l=eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/feeds/2071286296333234234/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/08/lessons-forgotten.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/2071286296333234234'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/2071286296333234234'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/08/lessons-forgotten.html' title='Lessons Forgotten'/><author><name>Eternal Answers Ministry</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03052771297282180503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='22' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_If1j1b_afts/TEGxVIMSGyI/AAAAAAAAAA0/E7CiexLFoKQ/S220/logo4.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-598228338802252094.post-4229424512524322058</id><published>2010-07-27T23:26:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2010-07-27T23:26:50.329-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible’s Role in History'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='America'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='freedom'/><title type='text'>Freedom For All</title><content type='html'>TEXT: Gal 3:28&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexis_deTocqueville"&gt;Alexis de Tocqueville&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, considered to be the foremost authority on early 19th century American liberty &amp; political philosophy, listed this text as the bedrock basis of American liberty in chapter 1 of his monumental work &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_in_America"&gt;Democracy in America&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;In his analysis in that book, he detailed how well educated every American was, primarily from each reading the Bible in their native tongue (primarily English).&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;He deduced that it was every Americans' knowledge of the implications of this verse as the Word of God that brought about the revolution against Britain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;In fact, de Tocqueville asserts that Paul's expression here is the first time that anyone had ever declared all men, women, slave, master, Jew, or gentile were equals under God.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This then is the root for Jefferson’s ground-breaking chain in the U.S. Declaration of Independence, the founding document of the United States, that “We hold these truths to be self evident:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;that all men are created equal, endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;that among these are life, liberty &amp; the pursuit of happiness.”&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;How much like Paul’s statement does the opening half of Jefferson’s formulation sound.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Tocqueville goes on to examine the root of the claim &amp; finds that it rings true that without Biblical Christianity there is no egalitarian freedom for all.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;He sees this as the driving force behind all the other leaps toward democracy (the printing press, the gun, the microscope, science, the engines that drive democracy), without which, progress would not be possible. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Wrote de Tocqueville:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;"Moreover, almost all the sects of the United States are comprised within the great unity of Christianity, and Christian morality is everywhere the same. In the United States the sovereign authority is religious, and consequently hypocrisy must be common; but there is no country in the whole world in which the Christian religion retains a greater influence over the souls of men than in America, and there can be no greater proof of its utility, and of its conformity to human nature, than that its influence is most powerfully felt over the most enlightened and free nation of the earth." *&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Regardless of what revisionists wish to say today, no matter what pratter they peddle, it is imperative that one read the documents of the period to see that from the Bible &amp; from our people's ability &amp; freedom to read it springs the lifeblood of our freedom.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America, (New York: A. S. Barnes &amp; Co., 1851), pp. 331, 332, 335, 336-7, 337&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/598228338802252094-4229424512524322058?l=eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/feeds/4229424512524322058/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/07/freedom-for-all.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/4229424512524322058'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/4229424512524322058'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/07/freedom-for-all.html' title='Freedom For All'/><author><name>Eternal Answers Ministry</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03052771297282180503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='22' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_If1j1b_afts/TEGxVIMSGyI/AAAAAAAAAA0/E7CiexLFoKQ/S220/logo4.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-598228338802252094.post-2825387778817725315</id><published>2010-07-25T21:28:00.005-04:00</published><updated>2010-07-25T21:51:19.940-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='semantics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hebrew'/><title type='text'>What's the Porpoise?</title><content type='html'>TEXT: Ex. 26:14&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"14 And thou shalt make a covering for the tent of rams’ skins dyed red, and a covering above of &lt;span style="background-color: #006600"&gt;badgers’&lt;/span&gt; skins."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The Hebrew&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; word used here can also refer to "porpoise" skins.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Some scholars insist that "badger" is an incorrect translation.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;However, though porpoises are found in the Red Sea &amp; in the Nile, they are pretty scarce in the desert, which means the Hebrews would have had to have anticipated their need &amp; stocked up before leaving Egypt.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;While this is technically possible (it may be they had a hoard from the spoils of Egypt; maybe they successfully raided a well stocked porpoise store like "Red Sea World"), it seems highly unlikely to say the least.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/598228338802252094-2825387778817725315?l=eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/feeds/2825387778817725315/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/07/whats-porpoise.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/2825387778817725315'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/2825387778817725315'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/07/whats-porpoise.html' title='What&apos;s the Porpoise?'/><author><name>Eternal Answers Ministry</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03052771297282180503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='22' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_If1j1b_afts/TEGxVIMSGyI/AAAAAAAAAA0/E7CiexLFoKQ/S220/logo4.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-598228338802252094.post-1064150475854209994</id><published>2010-07-23T22:19:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2010-07-23T22:19:26.332-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='church'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Spiritual Truth'/><title type='text'>Training</title><content type='html'>TEXT: Prov 22:6&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia; font-size: 180%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Arguably there&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt; is nothing more important to the health &amp; survival of the church as an institution than the proper training of Christian children.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;More important then evangelism.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;More important than missionary work.  Our children are our closest &amp; best resource for the future church.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;All the more tragic that increasingly, more &amp; more young adults are leaving the church in droves -- upwards of 70%!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This hemorrhage has led to the first noticeable drops in church attendance in over a century; the first but unless things change radically, unfortunately not the last.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Check the backgrounds of virtually every prominent atheist today &amp; you will find two things:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;1) Freudian difficulties with authority figures (ftnote) &amp; 2) religious teaching in their youth.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;That's right -- religious teaching in their youth.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Rabid atheist Dan Barker was raised in a fundamentalist Christian home &amp; was a preacher with a music ministry before casting God aside.  George Smith was a religious youngster in a non-religious home until as a sophomore in high school he began to stray away from Christianity.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Even Richard Dawkins was the beneficiary of a church run private school in England.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The modern atheist, new ager or cultist usually has some sort of significant church association in their youth.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;How can this be?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Ken Hamm &amp; Britt Beemer have performed a well documented study of just this issue.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Their conclusions are found in their book called Already Gone.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;In their book, they detail how kids are not being lost in their first years of college where they become victims of evil atheist professors as previously thought.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;No.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The statistics demonstrate that these children are already gone long before they reach college.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Their statistics are compiled from a survey of 1,000 young adults who, as youngsters, attended specifically conservative, evangelical Sunday schools &amp; youth groups faithfully.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;These were not the "holidays only" kids.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;These were the hard core of children that might be found in any church's youth group or Sunday school today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The statistics are staggering.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;More than 60% had left the church by their mid-twenties.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Some 40% of those that had left had no interest in ever going back to church.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;In fact, by the statistical showing, kids that didn't go to Sunday school regularly were more likely to remain Christians than those that did!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The main reasons the respondents gave for leaving-- 1) the irrelevancy of the church to their lives &amp; 2) the hypocrisy of the church membership.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;However, what is most revealing about Ham &amp; Beemer's study is that they dug beneath the surface &amp; found some tragic flaws that made the church seem irrelevant to these people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Despite sitting in a Sunday school classroom virtually every Sunday of their youth, less than 30-40% of the respondents could agree with the following statements:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;1)  The stories related in the Bible depict true events;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;2)  The Bible has no errors;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;3) God created the universe;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;4)  Sex outside of marriage is against God's law;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;5)  Marriage is meant to be between one man &amp; one woman &amp; most staggeringly&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;6) Faith in Jesus Christ is the only way to God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The book is well worthwhile to find in a library or to purchase.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The study is incredibly revealing.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The bottom line is that we are not teaching our children how to defend the core doctrines of Christianity.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We tell them week after week after week what to believe but we never seem to get around to telling them why.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Our failure to teach our kids how to defend their/our beliefs is leading to the rapid demise of the traditional church.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Combined with the high profile &amp; low profile hypocrisy seen on TV &amp; in the home, our kids are simply walking away from the public body of Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The bright spot in all this?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Remember that 40% that had no interest in returning to church?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Well, there's the 60% that might consider it.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Most of them report that they still believe in God.  Most still consider themselves Christians ie members of the Church, the Body of Christ, but obviously have little faith in what it means to be a Christian ie the central doctrines of following Christ.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Virtually all report that they are still searching, still on a spiritual quest.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The refocusing of church away from entertainment to genuine education, from evangelizing the converted to arming the Christian soldier may yet, with the blessing of the Holy Spirit, return the church as an institution from the brink of what promises to be a very, very deep abyss.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/598228338802252094-1064150475854209994?l=eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/feeds/1064150475854209994/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/07/training.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/1064150475854209994'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/1064150475854209994'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/07/training.html' title='Training'/><author><name>Eternal Answers Ministry</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03052771297282180503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='22' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_If1j1b_afts/TEGxVIMSGyI/AAAAAAAAAA0/E7CiexLFoKQ/S220/logo4.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-598228338802252094.post-186378849191117344</id><published>2010-07-20T16:28:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2010-07-20T16:28:10.924-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='prayer'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Spiritual Truth'/><title type='text'>If Prayers Were Wishes</title><content type='html'>TEXT: Matt 18:19&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This verse&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; along with others is often used resulting in two ends:  1) deception &amp; 2) dismissal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Addressing the first, many, particularly charismatic preachers, use this verse to deceive believers into thinking that whatever they pray for, no matter what, as long as at least one other person prays for it with them, they will get it.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This is a wholly unscriptural approach to prayer, both in practice &amp; expectation.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Firstly, one must note that all such promises (including Mk 11:23; Jn 14:13-14; 15:7; 16:24) are made explicitly to the apostles.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;If one looks at the passage one will quickly see that Jesus is not addressing the multitude, but the small party of the 12 in all these cases.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It is a promise made exclusively to them, proof of which will be offered soon.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Secondly, all prayer is to be in accord with the Father's will (Luke 11:2).&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Even Jesus could not pray His way out of the Father's will.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;He prayed in the garden that the cup of the cross would pass from Him, but it did not.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The scriptural approach must be "thy will be done" (Luke 22:42).&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Thus, God does answer all prayer.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We simply must be prepared for that answer to be, "No."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;If the interpretation of the charismatic's were true, no Christian would ever have died.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Certainly those that I have prayed with have had two or more praying for healing as have millions more through history.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;If this passage were applicable to us, then these people including many members of my family &amp; myself, would be alive &amp; well.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The evidence of our eyes must prevail.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Given the two interpretations, the evidence of our eyes &amp; history demonstrates the truth of only one ie this promise was exclusive to the apostles.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Which is the refutation to the second use of this passage ie dismissal.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Many anti-Christian speakers &amp; philosophers dismiss Christianity pointing to this as being a "lie" that Jesus spoke for no one has ever gotten everything for which they have prayed.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Again, the faith remains perfectly consistent &amp; intact only if one sees this &amp; similar promises as applying to the 12 exclusively.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Nevertheless, we should not despair.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The purpose of this promise was to establish Christianity &amp; make it triumphant in history; a purpose that was accomplished through the work of the apostles.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Christianity survived, thrived &amp; has dominated western thought until modern times.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The Christian should feel joy in this fulfillment.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Just because we see this as not applying to us, we should realize we are all on the same grace as Jesus &amp; the apostles ie the will of the Father.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Indeed, this is applicable to us if we see our prayer life from that perspective. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Prayer is not about wish fulfillment.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Prayer is not about a laundry list of "I want"'s.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Bringing all our desires, all our wants into accordance with His will should be the fulfillment of the believers soul.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It is only in this way that a martyr can go to his/her fate; that a faithful servant can find his reward.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/598228338802252094-186378849191117344?l=eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/feeds/186378849191117344/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/07/if-prayers-were-wishes.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/186378849191117344'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/186378849191117344'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/07/if-prayers-were-wishes.html' title='If Prayers Were Wishes'/><author><name>Eternal Answers Ministry</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03052771297282180503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='22' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_If1j1b_afts/TEGxVIMSGyI/AAAAAAAAAA0/E7CiexLFoKQ/S220/logo4.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-598228338802252094.post-3065410161711626817</id><published>2010-07-20T16:16:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2010-07-29T10:56:54.976-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='New Testament'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Heaven'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ark'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Revelation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Prophecy'/><title type='text'>The Real Thing</title><content type='html'>TEXT: Heb 8: 4-5&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;What the&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; author is telling his Jewish audience is that Moses merely saw into heaven to see the heavenly ark in God's Temple which he was to attempt to reproduce;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Christ is actually in that Temple serving as high priest right now.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;One of the implications of this is that when John is called to "Come up here" (Rev 4:1) &amp; he walks around these objects (Rev 11), he is claiming to actually be there amongst these objects not merely experiencing a vision of them as Moves did (Ex 25:9).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/598228338802252094-3065410161711626817?l=eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/feeds/3065410161711626817/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/07/real-thing.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/3065410161711626817'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/3065410161711626817'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/07/real-thing.html' title='The Real Thing'/><author><name>Eternal Answers Ministry</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03052771297282180503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='22' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_If1j1b_afts/TEGxVIMSGyI/AAAAAAAAAA0/E7CiexLFoKQ/S220/logo4.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-598228338802252094.post-5553506461479420044</id><published>2010-07-19T14:10:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2010-07-19T14:10:30.900-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='prayer'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Spiritual Truth'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='relationship'/><title type='text'>Habitual Prayer</title><content type='html'>TEXT: Dan 6:10&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“10 ¶ Now when Daniel knew that the writing was signed, he went into his house; and his windows being open in his chamber toward Jerusalem, he kneeled upon his knees three times a day, and prayed, and gave thanks before his God, as he did aforetime.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Daniel was&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; a man of prayer.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We see all through this book that it was a habit for him to pray.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;He prayed toward Jerusalem at “the time of the evening oblation” ie toward a city that no longer existed, destroyed over half a century before by the Babylonians, at the time of a ritual that had not been kept in 70 years!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It must have seemed to him at times that all that was left of his home &amp; way of life was in his prayers.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This kind of longing is felt by every Jew that weeps &amp; prays at the Wailing Wall.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Prior to 1948, it was a feeling shared by every Jew that yearned for a homeland of their own.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;How much of the reality of the situation actually sunk into Daniel's psyche we don't know.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;What we do know is that through habitual prayer, he kept his identity alive.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;How many of us, of our young, of those around us every day seem lost, without an identity to hold on to.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;How much might prayer help them rediscover &amp; retain who they really are.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This is more than the quaint sentiment, "The family that prays together, stays together."&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Prayer must hold a personal dimension to be effective.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Proper prayer life means connecting one's deepest sense of identity, of who we are, with God's.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Prayer is not a wish list; it is not a memorized repeated incantation. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Prayer is touching God &amp; feeling Him touch back.  Prayer is part of a relationship.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Thus, yes, it does take on ritualistic aspects.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;There are married couples that, though their day may routinely see them separated for most of the time, they will, with ritualistic passion, have a cup of coffee together, every morning &amp; talk.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The point of such an exercise is not the enjoyment of coffee, though they may with some frequency seek out different, more exotic blends, brew methods, etc.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The point is not actually the talk, though each will save a story or comment expressly for the morning get together.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The get together, the relationship, is the point.  The element of good coffee and/or special comments heighten the experience.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;But, even if the coffee is a bit off; even if the room is quiet, the experience of being together, the relationship, still makes the experience, the ritual, worth the effort for in this way, in this ritual, they form an identity as a married whole, not two people who happen to be married.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Such a ritual will develop only with dedication to making it a habit.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This is what prayer is.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It's a habitual engaging in the relationship. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;In a modern culture of one night stands, no fault divorce &amp; abortion on demand, maybe we have lost the knack of forming relationships, but that is what Daniel had.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It is a fulfilling experience (or at least it should be) for its own sake.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This is what God wants; not repeated, mindless incantations; not just the odd moment now &amp; then, always when we're in need.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;He wants a relationship.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;He wants to hear when your sad; he wants to hear when you're happy, ecstatic; even when you have nothing to say, maybe He does!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Make prayer a habit &amp; God guarantees you'll have a relationship.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Be as faithful in your prayer life as Daniel &amp; you will experience all the joy that relationship can bring in this life!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/598228338802252094-5553506461479420044?l=eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/feeds/5553506461479420044/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/07/habitual-prayer.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/5553506461479420044'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/5553506461479420044'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/07/habitual-prayer.html' title='Habitual Prayer'/><author><name>Eternal Answers Ministry</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03052771297282180503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='22' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_If1j1b_afts/TEGxVIMSGyI/AAAAAAAAAA0/E7CiexLFoKQ/S220/logo4.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-598228338802252094.post-8734412415983987888</id><published>2010-07-17T09:35:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2010-07-17T09:35:53.792-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Postmodernism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='philosophy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Spiritual Truth'/><title type='text'>Personal Experience &amp; Postmodernism</title><content type='html'>TEXT: Matt 1:20&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Here Joseph&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  has what many in the postmodern world would consider the senna qua non of spiritual experience i.e. personal contact with the divine.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It must be considered, of course, a rare event today in the Church Age for God to provide such a personal experience.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;There are reasons for this which are explained in the Bible.  Nevertheless, many feel that their spiritual lives are empty unless they can have personal contact with the divine plane.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This has been suggested as a possible reason for the veritable explosive growth in the charismatic church since this, primarily, is what they ostensibly offer.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;However, it should be noted that we're not told to seek or overvalue such contact (2 Cor 12:6) &amp; in fact, we're warned against attempting such (Lev 19:31; 20:6, 27; Deut 18:9-12; Isa 8:19-20; 1 Cor 10:14-22).&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Even so, you would be surprised how far you can get in witnessing to a postmodernist thinker if you allow yourself to use what they see as personal experience in order to bring to their consideration the Gospel of Jesus Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We wish to make it abundantly clear that there is but one way to God &amp; that is through His Son Jesus Christ &amp; there is only one way to get access to Jesus Christ &amp; that is through His gospel as revealed in His word.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;So, we can only access God through Christ &amp; we can only access Christ through the gospel, but the means &amp; modes to access the gospel are virtually limitless!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Sometimes imagination is required. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Consider the following situation:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;you sit next to a stranger on the train or an airplane &amp; have the opportunity for an extended period of conversation before reaching your destination.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;She notes you carry your Bible &amp; asks if you are a believer &amp; you respond by providing her with your testimony.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;She responds to that by saying, "Wow, you know, I had a dream just like that just the other night!"&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Further, she relates that she called her mother, who is a churchgoing woman, &amp; her mother asked, "What have you done wrong that Satan is doing this to you?" She tells you how immediately she was turned off by that approach&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Now, given the content of the dream, we may or may not agree with the mother as to whether there may be a demon at work.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;However, we must note that the postmodern thinker will see the dream as personal experience of the spiritual plane &amp; they may be right.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;However, assessing it as demon inspired (even if it is so) is not the route to take in order to open access for this individual to the gospel.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The question instead to be asked is (and this is a very carefully crafted question)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;"What do you think God was trying to tell you by allowing you to have that dream?"&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This wording is critical to the approach &amp; here's why:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Firstly, attributing the dream to demons is going to close the person off &amp; shut down the conversation.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;No one wants to be told they are cavorting with demons.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;You will not be able to relate the gospel if you are not talking &amp;, after all, that is the desired point to be reached for only by accessing the gospel is there access to Christ by which the seeker can genuinely access God, even if they do not accept or acknowledge this fact.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;But, if you shut down the conversation prematurely, you preclude the possibility of getting to the step of sharing the gospel. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Sometimes, the indirect approach ends up being the most direct for the purposes of the gospel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The question is carefully phrased:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"What..." -- Obviously you are asking for a response;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"...do you..." -- Remember, we're dealing with personal experience that is the postmodernist's major god, along with his/her feelings, as to the measure of spiritual growth.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;You need to tap into that.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;So, you want to be asking about what it means to them;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"...think..." -- This is the one thing the postmodernists seem to avoid as much as possible.  It must be our goal to get them to engage their minds; to think, not just to feel, about their situation.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Feelings can be very misleading; too many people today follow their feelings in the postmodernist fashion whereas, if they actually thought more, they might grow more spiritually as well as intellectually.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;As an example, it is a comfortable, usually unchallenged, postmodern sentiment for one to say,"&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Well, you can never really be sure about anything," to which-if only one would think about it -the obvious reply is, "Are you sure about that?"&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Many of the quaint, pithy little sayings that are laid out in the postmodern world, fail to pass any sort of scrutiny that sometimes even a kindergartner could provide, but because we are a society that no longer thinks about these things, which thinks about our positions, we get trapped into the comfortable, feel-good euphemisms &amp; philosophies of the age.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"...God meant..." -- This ties the individual to the divine, which is where they want to be in the first place.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Tying them &amp; their experience to the devil or Satan makes for a short conversation.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Eventually though this tie may need to be made, it is better initially to help them see their tie to God first &amp; foremost.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Even if that brush with divinity must eventually convict them of their experience, they are at least initially more comfortable with pursuing the conversation.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;You are also indicating that their experience was an intention on the part of God.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This is important for conveying to them that God does indeed care about them personally.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;A postmodernist is apt to appreciate this or, alternatively, that God is an impersonal thing.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;In case of the latter, using this question, you'll be able to tease such feelings out &amp; address them in due course;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"...by allowing..." -- to say "by giving" wrongly conveys our conviction that all that happens in our experience is allowed by God, but not necessarily sent or given by God.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;As demonstrated by the Book of Job, not all is directly caused by God, but all is allowed by God.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Given the fact that such dreams may be brought about by demons or demon inspiration, we do not want to be in the position of insinuating that God was the cause of their dream.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;As notably repeated in the gospels several times (Mark 1: 24-25) Jesus never wanted or accepted the testimony of devils on His behalf, even though they knew who He really was.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We should not be in the position of conveying, even in an indirect way, that He is associated with such activities.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;By using the word "allow," we're able to remain flexible in later judging of the dreams content should you be called upon to do so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"...you to have that dream?" -- this validates the individual's personal experience.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We should have no doubt that anyone's given experience, be it a dream or near death experience (NDE) or other such phenomenon, has spiritual implications.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It certainly has significance to the individual &amp; while we may not want to validate or endorse the content of that experience, we can feel free to validate the fact of the experience as being genuine &amp; of significance to the individual.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Though this example has been provided &amp; broken down, it is important to recognize that it is just that -- an example.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;There are innumerable approaches to postmodernist seekers; flexibility must be maintained in terms of approach. This is usually more important than anything else.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The postmodern seeker will want to know that you are listening to them; seeing their specific circumstance; hearing their specific story.  Postmodernism &amp; postmodernist thinking can not be distinguished by age group, by mode of dress, or by any other physical characteristic.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;A postmodernist is one who has accepted uncritically the time dime store philosophy that has pervaded society beginning in the early to mid -80's, at least in the popular culture; some philosophers think that it traces its roots as far back as the opening of the Bastille in the time of the French revolution, when Europe entered the Enlightenment.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Popular postmodern thinking seems to have come into vogue about the time of the end of the cold war.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We had all been told by Star Trek &amp; 2001 a space odyssey that if only we could overcome our differences with the Soviets either through accommodation or by overcoming the Soviets themselves (though most seemed to think accommodation would be the eventual policy we would have to take) that we would soon find ourselves wearing bright silver clothing, living in the brightly lit white world of sleep spaceships zipping from galaxy to galaxy without care in peace &amp; harmony.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Unfortunately, we seem to be living in the same forlorn world as before only now it's terrorists with planes instead of commies with nukes that hold us hostage. People have become disillusioned with the modernists dream and have seen them as having fallen short on their promises.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Likewise, just as they were wrong about having to accommodate the Soviets someday, they seem to have been wrong about just about everything.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Some have gone as far as to claim that bringing down the Soviet empire was the wrong thing to do!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;They insist that if we have accommodated them as the modernists had suggested, we would be living in the world of clean white space ships.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This, on the face of it, is, of course, silly since continuing the Soviet empire simply meant the extension of the suffering of the millions of people that lived under its yoke.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;They're certainly no worse off today than they were &amp; one might say they're a whole lot better off in many ways than they were before.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Some have said that postmodernism isn't as much a philosophy as it is a mood.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;People have become disillusioned, disappointed &amp; are simply disgusted at finding Christ's observation as true i.e. "Know ye not that the poor will always be with you?"&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;So many, though they may seem bright &amp; cheerful on the outside, they're living that life of quiet desperation, so tired of having to think for themselves that they have surrendered, allowing others to think for them, finding comfort in poorly thought out, feel-good cliches.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Postmodernism may be viewed as a great depression of the spirit.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;To this, Christ is the answer, the only answer.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We must be flexible enough to introduce Him to the members of this wide, disparate group, being firm in our message, yet gentle in spirit.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Note the variety, however, in the ways in which Jesus in presented by Jesus &amp; his followers: eg to Nicodemus, Jesus said, "You must be born again; to the woman of the well, He said nothing of being born again but He told her He was the water of life; when Phillip saw the Ethiopian in his chariot perplexed by the words of Isaiah, he didn't speak of the water of life nor did he speak of being born again, rather the Ethiopian was perplexed and so Philip offered to explain.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Example after example, time &amp; time again, Christ &amp; his apostles are providing us with a pattern of flexibility.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Each delivered the message of the Gospel, but in a way that met each spiritual seeker where he or she was at on their spiritual journey.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;They delivered it in the close, personal circumstance of their own lives &amp; on a level that each was able to understand.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Some have said that Christianity must change or die.  Christianity does not need to "change" but it does need to remember &amp; rediscover the flexibility that made it spread across the world so successfully in the first place.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Christianity was never intended to be a cookie cutter religion; this is not a do progressive concept.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This is good, old fashioned, Biblical Christianity available to anyone who is willing to rediscover it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We must remember, our primary goal is to open up access to the gospel for these individuals.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The postmodern thinker (a term which is actually an oxymoron since they worship feeling &amp; eschew thinking!) is lost in a morass of conflicting feelings seeking experience, the majority of which will turn out to be fraudulent &amp; hollow.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It is the Christian's duty to demonstrate that there is a better way; to show that spirituality is not merely a matter of "feeling one's way."&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;God calls us to love Him with all our hearts, with all our souls, all our strength &amp; with all our mind (Luke 10:27).&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Yes, we must feel; Yes, our souls, our being, must be engaged; but, we must also think.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Of the all creatures in creation, God gave us the ability to reason.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;He gave us the faculty of mind.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We must open the postmodernist up to the idea that had God not wished us to use this faculty, why would He give it to us in the first place!?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Postmodern relativists tell us there is no such thing as "truth" &amp; yet they wish us to believe that their assertion is true!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;They tell us that words have no meaning &amp; yet they write tomes hundreds of pages long using thousands of words to convince us of this truth in a world where they say there is no truth!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Postmodernism is incoherent; at the very least inconsistent.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It is our job to lay this false philosophy bare but, of prime importance, to use whatever means we can to open access to the Gospel &amp; allow the Holy Spirit to do His work.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/598228338802252094-8734412415983987888?l=eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/feeds/8734412415983987888/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/07/personal-experience-postmodernism.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/8734412415983987888'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/8734412415983987888'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/07/personal-experience-postmodernism.html' title='Personal Experience &amp; Postmodernism'/><author><name>Eternal Answers Ministry</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03052771297282180503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='22' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_If1j1b_afts/TEGxVIMSGyI/AAAAAAAAAA0/E7CiexLFoKQ/S220/logo4.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-598228338802252094.post-8347963495037208362</id><published>2010-07-14T18:43:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2011-10-09T19:14:16.436-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Spiritual Truth'/><title type='text'>Human Do's</title><content type='html'>Mark Ch.7&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia; font-size: 180%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The Pharisees&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt; had come up with what they thought was a work-around God's law regarding caring for parents.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;A person was able to say that they were dedicating their inheritance and property to the service of the Temple.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This sounds all holy and pious, of course.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Having done so, technically the Temple owned all their wealth.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;They, personally, however, were allowed to live off the proceeds from that property as long as they lived.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This practice was called Corban.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;However, since they technically owned nothing, they were not required to provide for aging parents or sick siblings or any family for that matter.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Jesus flat out condemns this practice.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;His charge is that their traditional practice made God's law to no effect.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Yet, again, the Pharisees had technically fulfilled the law, but really missed the whole point.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Lest we think this does not apply to us today, we should consider how often church members dedicate so much time and wealth to the church that they think they can nullify their family obligations.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;There are those that spend every spare minute over at the church failing to take their day of rest, failing to spend time with their spouses, fail to spend time with their children and still, as here, fail to care for aging parents.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;There are some that tithe even at the expense of putting themselves into financial jeopardy.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The worst of this matter is that there are pastors and leaders that encourage this type of behavior, insisting that it is a "sacrifice for God," when the reality is that it is a sacrifice to themselves where church growth even to a mega-church means more power and money for that pastor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;What is lacking here is the truth of the basis of the church.  It is not we that spread the church, but the Holy Spirit.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It is not our work that builds the church.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Christ builds his church.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;To operate in such a manner, even for a church-- a "holy" purpose-- is a sin.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It is the sin of pride bourne out by the arrogance to think that without "me," "I" am so important, that without "my" work, "my" dedication, "my" church will not grow.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It is not "my" church.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It's Christ's church.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;If you take a day off a week as ordered, His church will still grow.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;If you place your resources, your wealth, your time to your family, your spouse, your children-- they are yours-- Christ's church will still grow.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;One of the most prominent idols in Western culture is "work," and not just for the work-aholic.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Too often in Western culture, men and increasingly women are defined by their work.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It affords them their social status &amp;amp; forms the basis of their self-image and self-worth.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This is why we hear frequently of the man or woman who is "disabled," no longer "able" to "be" what they were in their jobs previously, degenerating into despair and sometimes suicide.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;They have defined themselves in terms of their career and when unable to fulfill the requirements of the job, they cease to see any value in their life.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It is not just the coveting of power, status or wealth.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It is the mistake of defining ourselves in terms of what we "do" rather than what we "are."&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;"Are" is a form of "to be."&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;"Do" is an action.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We are "human beings" not "human do's."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This is not to say we should not do work to serve others, even the church.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It is not to say that in extraordinary circumstances and opportunities that sometimes huge sacrifices are not required.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It is to say that day-to-day operations, whether in business or church work can not be at the sacrifice of family responsibilities.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It is the mark of a cult that says you must offer all your produce, all your wealth, your family, your time to the cult and any church or ministry that operates similarly is operating on the same basis as a cult.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;No church should require or knowingly accept a member's time and money on such a basis.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Those that do must go back and thoroughly read this exchange and upbraiding from our Lord.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/598228338802252094-8347963495037208362?l=eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/feeds/8347963495037208362/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/07/human-dos.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/8347963495037208362'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/8347963495037208362'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/07/human-dos.html' title='Human Do&apos;s'/><author><name>Eternal Answers Ministry</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03052771297282180503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='22' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_If1j1b_afts/TEGxVIMSGyI/AAAAAAAAAA0/E7CiexLFoKQ/S220/logo4.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-598228338802252094.post-6349076034998096676</id><published>2010-07-09T15:23:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2010-07-12T10:35:14.216-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='service'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Spiritual Truth'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='faith'/><title type='text'>Agenda</title><content type='html'>Acts 1:6&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time &lt;span style="background-color: #006600"&gt;restore again the kingdom to Israel&lt;/span&gt;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The Apostles,&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  even after three years of walking with the Lord, witnessing His death, experiencing His resurrection, have an agenda that does not conform to Christ's agenda.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;They have received this great commission on a number of occasions &amp; yet have still not understood that the Son of Man came for all of mankind &amp; that all of mankind had to receive the Word.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Christians in the modern world must still heed the Lord's answer in v.7.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Whether it be eschatology, ministry, mission or even personal prognostications or agendas, the future is not for us to know or to act upon but the present is ours in which to be.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;God will bring the kingdom in when He will.  We are not to wait around for Him to do so, but to "be witnesses unto [Christ] both in Jerusalem, &amp; in all Judea, &amp; in Samaria, &amp; unto the uttermost part of the earth," (v.8) ie everywhere &amp; everyone.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We are promised the Holy Spirit's lead in these endeavours (v. 8) &amp; we carry the promise that Christ has all authority in heaven &amp; on earth, ruling all nations, the only "superpower" there is &amp; that all that power will go before us &amp; He will be with us always, even unto the end of the world (Mt.28:20)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Even so, many do not like this answer, but, as often happens, God always answers just not always with the answer we would like.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It brings to mind the many agendas we still sometimes have &amp; try to impose upon God.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Many are delighted to go God's way as long as He is going their way.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We must learn to conform our lives &amp; our desires to God's agenda.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Only then will we know the fullness of worship ie surrendering to God all that we have &amp; all that we are.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We can not fully worship God while retaining the individual, national, or global agendas we desire that are outside God's agenda.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Ministry, financial, political -- all agendas must be subservient to His else we are not walking in His way but ours.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We may find certain tasks annoying, certain places too distant, certain people unappealing.  These are to be of no account.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Whatever, wherever &amp; to whomever God leads us is our duty for service.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;History is replete with examples of reluctant prophets &amp; missionaries from Jonah to Thomas (see "Thomas in India" below) to St. Patrick (whom most mistake for being Irish; he wasn't; he was a British boy captured by Irish warriors &amp; taken into slavery in Ireland who, after escaping some 13 years later, returned to bring the Gospel to the land of his former captivity).&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;How much more so should our 21st century comfort laden world be?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We must be willing to go God's way, even if it's not our way.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Obedience must accompany faith, else one must question where that faith is actually placed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;What is most surprising, when you can truly reach a point of surrender to God, we often find that what He has in mind is so much greater &amp; far reaching than anything we might imagine.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Here the Apostles are focused on just Israel.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Christ tries to make clear to them over &amp; over in the Great Commission (see here &amp; Mt 28) that His vision encompasses the entire world, everywhere the Apostles knew of &amp; beyond to lands that wouldn't be discovered for another 1400 years!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Christianity would spread across the globe from this small collection of disciples huddled in an upper room.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;That, then, is the essence of this passage.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Give up your own small visions for yourself &amp; embrace the greater vision of God.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The rewards of doing so may not come to us in this lifetime.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Eleven of the twelve died horrible deaths in martyrdom while the only one to die of old age (ironically, the youngest, John) spent most of his years living in prison or in exile.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;However, this is the essence of faith -- knowledge of that which is unseen (Heb 11:1); knowledge that heaven carries a reward greater than anything to be found in this life.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Such is part of embracing God's greater vision for us &amp; mankind.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/598228338802252094-6349076034998096676?l=eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/feeds/6349076034998096676/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/07/agenda.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/6349076034998096676'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/6349076034998096676'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/07/agenda.html' title='Agenda'/><author><name>Eternal Answers Ministry</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03052771297282180503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='22' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_If1j1b_afts/TEGxVIMSGyI/AAAAAAAAAA0/E7CiexLFoKQ/S220/logo4.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-598228338802252094.post-2883781133102372624</id><published>2010-07-09T14:36:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2010-07-09T15:51:49.602-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Traditions'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='canon'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='canonical history'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='government'/><title type='text'>Defending the Protestant Canon</title><content type='html'>Luke Ch.11:47-51 : text is in verse 51&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“47 Woe unto you! for ye build the sepulchres of the prophets, and your fathers killed them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;48 Truly ye bear witness that ye allow the deeds of your fathers: for they indeed killed them, and ye build their sepulchres.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;49 Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;50 That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;51 From &lt;span style="background-color: #006600"&gt;the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias&lt;/span&gt;, which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Christ recognizes&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; the Old Testament canon as running from Abel in Genesis to Zacharia, whose book does not appear last in the Protestant canon order though he is known to be the latest writer in that canon chronologically.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This answers two major questions concerning canon by the Lord's decree, not by man's.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Firstly, Christ verifies the authenticity of the Genesis account.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;By citing Abel as a prophet, Christ is acknowledging that Moses' account in Genesis is real history at least as far as Jesus is concerned (which should be as much evidence any Christian needs).&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;His statement here means that Abel was a real person, not some mythical invention of later tradition.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;In fact, it is tradition vs the Word of God that is the subject of this very debate.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Christ is saying to the Pharisees that they must reference real history, God's real Word, not their traditions when giving guidance or being guided as how to live.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Christ includes Abel (thereby incorporating the Genesis account) as part of that real history.  Thus, if the book of Genesis is actually metaphor, Christ's whole argument falls apart meaning He was in error which means He was not God.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Chuck Genesis from real history &amp; you chuck Christianity out the same window.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Secondly, Christ affirms that the extra books included in the Catholic canon are, in fact by His decree, not authentically canonical.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Christ here Himself closes the canon chronologically at Zacharia.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This is why books such as Maccabees &amp; Jubilees are not included in the Protestant canon.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Christ in advance confirms the writings of the apostles as canon (see Jn 16:14 note "Christ Verifies the NT"), but excludes all books in the so called 400 year "Silent Era."&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Any debate over canon must center on this verse, a proclamation from the Lord Himself, which can not be denied, altered or refuted.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Certainly we can look to these books as probable historical accounts in the same way as we might consult the Autobiography of Ben Franklin to understand life in colonial America.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;However, we would never call Ben Franklin's work "inspired" just because it is historically accurate.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;"Inspiration" implies &amp; must demonstrate more than historical accuracy (though that is a vital requisite component).&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Thus, if the Lord Himself did not see these as books worthy to live by, then neither should we.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/598228338802252094-2883781133102372624?l=eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/feeds/2883781133102372624/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/07/defending-protestant-canon.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/2883781133102372624'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/2883781133102372624'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/07/defending-protestant-canon.html' title='Defending the Protestant Canon'/><author><name>Eternal Answers Ministry</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03052771297282180503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='22' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_If1j1b_afts/TEGxVIMSGyI/AAAAAAAAAA0/E7CiexLFoKQ/S220/logo4.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-598228338802252094.post-3080060537592072495</id><published>2010-07-07T16:48:00.004-04:00</published><updated>2010-07-12T16:20:57.647-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Spiritual Truth'/><title type='text'>Fellowship is Fiduciary</title><content type='html'>TEXT: Lev 6:2&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"2 If a soul sin, and commit a trespass against the LORD, and lie unto his neighbour in that which was delivered him to keep, or &lt;span style="background-color: #006600"&gt;in fellowship&lt;/span&gt;, or in a thing taken away by violence, or hath deceived his neighbour;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3 Or have found that which was lost, and lieth concerning it, and sweareth falsely; in any of all these that a man doeth, sinning therein:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4 Then it shall be, because he hath sinned, and is guilty, that he shall restore that which he took violently away, or the thing which he hath deceitfully gotten, or that which was delivered him to keep, or the lost thing which he found,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5 Or all that about which he hath sworn falsely; he shall even restore it in the principal, and shall add the fifth part more thereto, and give it unto him to whom it appertaineth, in the day of his trespass offering.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The Hebrew&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; implies a fiduciary relationship wherein the individual is to place the needs of the partner or corporation ahead of the individuals own needs or wants.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This is the genuine meaning of fellowship as embodied in the Bible ie not socializing but the recognition that each individual has the obligation to place the needs of others before his own.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We "come together in fellowship" not "for" fellowship (Lev 6:2).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;In our fellowship with God, He has seen to His part, placing our needs so far forward as to sacrifice His own Son for our salvation.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Have we kept our part of the fellowship?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The answer, of course, is "no."&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Note that Christ is our sin offering made to restore our fellowship with God.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;His sacrifice being made to the ends of that restoration, what have we done with it?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Having accepted His sacrifice, are we actually engaging on that kind of level with God or do we simply see ourselves as hourly workers, putting in our time?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;One of the aspects of the fiduciary duty is to see to the best interests of God &amp; His enterprise first &amp; foremost.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Paul implies in Ephesians 6 that this is precisely the nature of our relationship to God.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Is this what we do with our salvation or do we use our salvation to our advantage ie as "fire insurance?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We also owe each other this kind of relationship.  Again, we are to come together in fellowship.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Is this really what we do as the church, or are we having a weekly social event at church?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/598228338802252094-3080060537592072495?l=eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/feeds/3080060537592072495/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/07/fellowship-is-fiduciary.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/3080060537592072495'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/3080060537592072495'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/07/fellowship-is-fiduciary.html' title='Fellowship is Fiduciary'/><author><name>Eternal Answers Ministry</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03052771297282180503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='22' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_If1j1b_afts/TEGxVIMSGyI/AAAAAAAAAA0/E7CiexLFoKQ/S220/logo4.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-598228338802252094.post-2554427849668361671</id><published>2010-02-28T17:24:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2011-10-09T19:12:53.020-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Zeitgeist: True, but Wrong</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Claims regarding&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; pagan stories of resurrection predating Jesus are clearly presented so as to be true but wrong. How can a statement be true but wrong?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Here's an example: "the worship of Osiris predates Jesus by centuries and we have resurrection stories of Osiris." &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This same statement is made for many pagan gods; for instance--Dionysus, Adonis, Osiris. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;They are all true but wrong. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The reader or viewer sees the statements and concludes "O, so resurrection stories predate Jesus." &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This is the desired conclusion which is where the deception lies. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The truth is, yes, worship of these deities predates Jesus. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;However, our earliest resurrection stories for these gods come &lt;em&gt;after&lt;/em&gt; Jesus, most dating to the second-third century A.D. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Consider what is happening in this time. Paganism is swiftly losing its grip on the masses and more importantly, on the ruling class i.e. It is losing political power. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Consider that by the beginning of the fourth century, Christianity will become openly legal and by the end of that century will become the official religion of the roman empire. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;So pagan religions are scrambling to make themselves a viable alternative to Christianity and at the heart of Christianity is the resurrection. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;That makes the resurrection a good place to start to try to make one's cult attractive to potential converts. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;So, it is actually the other way around. Christianity is not changing to appeal the pagans. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Paganism is changing to prevent conversions that are sweeping through cults and decimating their power base.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Often the same ploy is used when comparing the Gilgamesh legends and Noah. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The statement is made that, " legends of Gilgamesh date back to the time before Genesis and we have the famous story of Gilgamesh on the sea which bears a striking resemblance to Noah." &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Again, technically, all true, but wrong. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The truth is some, not all, legends of Gilgamesh predate the writing of Genesis, the oldest is probably being of Gilgamesh &amp; Dinkadoo the wild man (a metaphor for urban civilization overturning simple tribal life). &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;However the accounts we have of the sea legend only appear some 500 years afterGenesis. (note: this discounts the theories that all books prior to Nehemiah including Daniel i.e. all books prior to the end of the Babylonian captivity, were actually written by the returning captives. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This theory holds that Jewish refugees made up their history because they didn't actually know it and did so by drawing on Babylonian mythical sources such as Gilgamesh. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This is a silly theory and readily disposed on other grounds.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Another example of pagan resurrection predating Christianity often centers around the observance of seasons and the pagan rituals attendant to it. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This leaves a skewed view of history as well as pagan tradition. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It is important to remember the pagan observance of seasons in ancient times had little or nothing to do with resurrection. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;They centered mainly on fertility. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The pagan god/godless of your choice but the seasons were always seen as an act of sexual procreation, not resurrection. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The male god would spread his seed over the earth, engorging rivers, creating wetlands, etc and the earth (usually a goddess) would absorb the male seed &amp; bring forth life in due season. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;That is a very important concept--the times between the rains &amp; the harvest was seen as paralleling the time between conception &amp; birth. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This was a process that took time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It was not a resurrection as nothing was seen to have died. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The terms of a resurrection cannot be seen as a time consuming event. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;One is either dead or not dead. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;At the moment the dead become alive is the &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;moment&lt;/span&gt; of resurrection. There is no &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;process&lt;/span&gt; of resurrection. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The ancients were not dull observers. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;They saw the fit with sex, procreation and birth as the more natural, unforced metaphor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The truth is it is impossible to say that no one, anywhere, ever made a resurrection story prior to Jesus. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;There are certainly similar legends of vastly different color predating Christianity. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;For example, there are vampire stories going back to ancient Egypt. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;However, outside of the dead coming back to some sort of life, the vampire story bears no resemblance to a resurrection story. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;However, leaving readers with the impression that there was a plethora of resurrection stories in pagan times and traditions prior to Christianity is specious at best; certainly a distortion if not an outright, cleverly crafted deception.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Christ is the quintessential prototype for resurrection. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;As always, Zeitgeist and its proponents are trying ex post Facto to lay claim to the Christian cross as something so powerful and desirable that deception is seen as an equitable price to pay for the obtaining of it. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Legitimate acceptance of Christ to be subsumed in the body topped with the head that wears the crown is seen as a price too high. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Failing in their attempt, I would hope that those who otherwise would have been convinced by the Zeitgeist lying would sincerely consider the claims of the gospel of Christ and legitimately inherit his crown of Glory in everlasting life.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/598228338802252094-2554427849668361671?l=eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/feeds/2554427849668361671/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/02/zeitgeist-true-but-wrong.html#comment-form' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/2554427849668361671'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/2554427849668361671'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2010/02/zeitgeist-true-but-wrong.html' title='Zeitgeist: True, but Wrong'/><author><name>Lauren</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17749938488410944280</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kGupLHKAMB0/TZpio8LriiI/AAAAAAAAAnI/gOoA7wuF9qc/s220/me.JPG'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-598228338802252094.post-7828723339007364580</id><published>2009-07-26T17:17:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2009-07-26T17:29:09.911-04:00</updated><title type='text'>"Universal Athiest"</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;One of&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; the favorite lines of thought for atheists to use is what I call the "universal atheist" argument. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;I submit there is at least one fundamental flaw in the premise of this argument that, as far as I can see, can not be patched.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The "Universal Atheist" argument goes thus:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1) Everyone disbelieves in at least one god, be it Thor or Zeus or Ahura-Mazda.  This makes everyone an atheist (hence the moniker "Universal Atheist") because (PREMISE:) Disbelief is a default position when considering any proposition.&lt;br /&gt;2) PREMISE:  Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.&lt;br /&gt;3) PREMISE:  The existence of God is an extraordinary claim.&lt;br /&gt;4) ASSERTION:  I see no extraordinary evidence for the claim&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;THEREFORE:  Concluded-Atheism is a reasonable position.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;I see nothing wrong with premises 2 or 3, so I will stipulate to those. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;I find the assertion of 4 presumptuous (can anyone know everything? &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Even if given any one of us knows half of everything, is it possible God exists in the half we don't know?), but such an assertion is subjective. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;If an individual thinks they have explored enough to stand by such an assertion, it seems pointless to argue as long as whenever new evidence to challenge that assertion is presented, the individual remains willing to reassess the claim of the assertion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;I would strongly suggest, however, that there are severe problems with the opening premise. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;I do not see where it is at all true or helpful to consider as true the premise that disbelief should be a default position. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Such a position would make it impossible to get through life. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;While the proposition that we should disbelieve everything until proven sounds appealing to an empirically grounded culture, it is, in fact, totally contrary to the nature of our existence and would stop life in its tracks if we operated on such a premise in our daily lives.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Example: &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Will marriage to the one I love now yield a lifetime of happiness or misery in the future? &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Restated as a positive claim, "Getting married will bring us a lifetime of happiness." &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Now, if disbelief is our standard default position, then we must not be moved from the negative conclusion (ie "No") until the claim is proved in the positive. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This being the case, we would never get married, because until we jump in, "take the plunge," as it were, and live out the marriage, we can never know whether the claim is true or not. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Indeed, continued failure to assert the positive actually precludes the very possibility of proving the positive. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Thus, the only way to prove the positive is to act on the default positive position. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The claim may still, unfortunately, yield a negative result, but by standing on the negative, a positive outcome can never be realized. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This is how daily life works. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Marriage, having children, choosing a job--we never have complete information. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;In fact, any older, married parents will tell you that comparing what they know now with what they knew then is like comparing the mass of a whale to an insect--no matter the size of the insect, it can never match that of a whale. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Amazingly, even so, a new child to that parent would put them back to having an infinitesimally small bank of knowledge regarding the outcome of that child. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;That is because, as every good parent will tell you, every child is different and times change. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Having had a successful outcome (so far!) with three children over the past 20 years does not assure a successful outcome with a proposed fourth over the next 20 years. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Yet, it would be absolute insanity to even contemplate a fourth unless I optimistically were willing to stand on the positive conclusion to such a proposition despite the profound ignorance on which I would have to base such a conclusion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;However, this does not make my conclusion "unreasonable." &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;To the contrary, the experience of successfully rearing three children makes it eminently reasonable to conclude that my parenting skills are presumptively adequate to the task. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;That is, I certainly have reasons, good, informed reasons on which to base my positive conclusion ie I have faith in my parenting skills. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;That is the very nature of faith--not ignorant belief to all contrary evidence, but informed positive assertion in the face of incomplete data where such data could not otherwise be complete. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;This is the Biblical concept of faith as defined by the author of Hebrews: &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;"NOW faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." (Hebrews 11:1). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;My point is that if we cling to the premise of a negative conclusion by default, nothing would be possible. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Science could not operate; conclusions could never be drawn. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;In the face of all timely calls to action--international crisis to personal disaster--our permanent, default "action" would be, in fact, the lack of action.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Rather, I would assert our standard, default position as a matter of daily practice ie the "real world" truth of the matter is that we consider first is it possible for the claim to be true. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;After determining the possibility of truth, we consider the evidence for and against and assign a probability of the claim being true, not proclaim it false until proven true. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;When called to act ie where we must act upon our informed belief in the truth of a given proposition--does God exist? &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Does Saddam have WMD? &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;If I have a kid, will he/she turn out OK?--we act in accord with our assessment of the probability of the positive resolution of the claim.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Atheism is not a reasonable position based upon this premise, which is shaky at best. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Neither is agnosticism. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;That topic in the next blog!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/598228338802252094-7828723339007364580?l=eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/feeds/7828723339007364580/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2009/07/universal-athiest.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/7828723339007364580'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/7828723339007364580'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2009/07/universal-athiest.html' title='&quot;Universal Athiest&quot;'/><author><name>Lauren</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17749938488410944280</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kGupLHKAMB0/TZpio8LriiI/AAAAAAAAAnI/gOoA7wuF9qc/s220/me.JPG'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-598228338802252094.post-2772857948536730612</id><published>2009-06-18T01:21:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-06-18T01:36:15.407-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='witness'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='brethern'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='society'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='gospel'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='politics'/><title type='text'>MEN WITHOUT BUCKETS or MADMAN AFIELD</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;There was&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; a certain madman who was given to using matches. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;He would run through the dry fields throwing lit matches at the underbrush setting it ablaze. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Often spied by townsfolk, 10 or a dozen men would race into the field trying to stamp out the fires. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;However, for each one that was stamped out, the madman would light two matches singing, "Lucifer is great! Lucifer is great!" &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Had they buckets of water, they might have fared better, but, for the sake of time &amp;amp; urgency, none were ever fetched.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;After a short while, overwhelmed by the number of fires lit, the men would look back to see that fires they thought had been stamped out only but smoldered and reignited into flame. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Thus surrounded by fire, they perished. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Inevitably, the brush fires would race toward their town and burn it too to the ground leaving fatherless children in the care of homeless widows.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Town after town was burned in this manner until the madman reached Hislast. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;On the road by the little town of Hislast, the pastor walked by when he saw the madman afield. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Calling to his brethern, he dashed into the field. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;However, instead of tackling a fire, he tackled the madman. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Leaving the fires to his friends, he proceeded to cast out the demons and that old scratch Satan from the madman. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;With no additonal fires being lit, buckets of water were fetched to make sure no coals or cinders remained to set the fields ablaze again, for time now permitted each fire to be taken in turn, thus saving the good town of Hislast from the destruction of the flames. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;In the end, even the madman himself poured water from his own bucket, crying now, "God is great! God is great!"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We live distracted by brushfires. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Dangerous though they may be, they will only grow as long as the madman remains loose. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We so much want to see abortion ended; we so much want to see God step into our schools once again; we so much want to see responsibility return to the public and its servants; we so much want to see sexuality regarded again as the sacred proposition it is instead of the wanton lust it has become.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; However, these are but the distractions lit by the madman. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The madman himself must be tackled and it is he with whom we must deal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the bucket in which we carry the living water which will quench any fire of destruction. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;With it we can give the Holy Spirit the chance to change the hearts of mankind.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; When the madman is cast out of society, then and only then will the wildfires that have grown up around us in the past century be quenched.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Then, too, will we survive like the good town of Hislast.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/598228338802252094-2772857948536730612?l=eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/feeds/2772857948536730612/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2009/06/men-without-buckets-or-madman-afield.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/2772857948536730612'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/2772857948536730612'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2009/06/men-without-buckets-or-madman-afield.html' title='MEN WITHOUT BUCKETS or MADMAN AFIELD'/><author><name>Eternal Answers Ministry</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03052771297282180503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='22' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_If1j1b_afts/TEGxVIMSGyI/AAAAAAAAAA0/E7CiexLFoKQ/S220/logo4.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-598228338802252094.post-233053706712487640</id><published>2009-06-15T10:54:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2010-02-28T17:52:28.052-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='canon'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='history'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='translation'/><title type='text'>Textus Receptus vs Alexandrian Codices</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;A great deal&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; has been written &amp;amp; said regarding the "King James Only" controversy.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; There are those who claim newer translations make the Bible more understandable to the average reader.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; However, often this claim is made under the naive assumption that the new translators just took the old English Bible &amp;amp; rewrote it with newer, more up to date words.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Nothing could be further from the truth.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; There are more than 60,000 changes in modern renderings beyond the simple changes in vocabulary ("thee" to "you," etc.), many greatly impacting doctrine &amp;amp; historicity within the text actually leading to &lt;em&gt;greater&lt;/em&gt; confusion especially for the novice reader.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The committee of scholars that created the King James or Authorized Version of the Bible (KJV) were all committed to the proposition that the 66 books contained therein were the inspired, unerring Word of God.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; While they knew they did not have any autographed originals (no one ever has had such a collection) they diligently scrutinized and compared over 5000 copies they did have of Hebrew, Latin and Greek documents dating from as early as the 5&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;th&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; Century AD to as late as the 12&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;th&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; While no translation is perfect, we can be assured that at least these priests and scholars were dedicated to conveying God's Word accurately into the English language with as little distortion or personal bias as possible over which collectively and individually prayer was constantly engaged.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Further, they were not influenced by commercial considerations (there were no royalties to be had as is the case with many modern translations) nor was sensationalism a factor.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; In short, these words were considered "holy" (specially recognized as possessing sacred authority; consecrated, devoted to the service of God; having a spiritually pure quality) and they were treated as such.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;When the KJV translators set to their work, they gathered all the original Hebrew, Greek &amp;amp; Latin sources that they could draw upon, the previously mentioned collection of 5000 documents dating from the 5&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;th&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; century AD to the 12&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;th&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Most of these texts were harmonious but some differed on personal pronouns, proper names, etc.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; From these they attempted to write a reconciled version that was later to become known as the &lt;em&gt;Textus Receptus&lt;/em&gt; or "Received Texts."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Then, in the 1800's, two previously unknown or unrecognized texts of the New Testament appeared.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; These were called &lt;em&gt;Vaticanus&lt;/em&gt; &amp;amp; &lt;em&gt;Sinaiticus&lt;/em&gt; since they were found in the Vatican Library &amp;amp; a monastery in the Sinai respectively.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; These texts were dated to the late 3&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;rd&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;-early 4&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;th&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; century (i.e. before any official canonization) &amp;amp; were in excellent condition.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; However, neither was in the original Greek language, but in a Coptic translation, an early Egyptian language.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Coptic placed the origin of these two texts in the region of Alexandria, Egypt.&amp;nbsp; Hence they became known collectively as the &lt;em&gt;Alexandrian Codices&lt;/em&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Two British scholars of Greek named Westcott &amp;amp; Hort undertook the translation of these Coptic copies back into their original Greek language.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; It was theorized that since these two texts were older than any of the 5000 that had been used by the 1611 King James committee, they might reveal a more authoritative text, being closer in time to the events described in the New Testament.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Indeed, startling &amp;amp; shocking differences did seem to suddenly appear.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Gone was the resurrection story in the book of Mark (the last twelve verses of the KJV).&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Gone was Acts 8:37 where the Ethiopian eunuch confesses Jesus as the Son of God along with many other passages.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Since the &lt;em&gt;Alexandrian Codices&lt;/em&gt; were definitely older than any document in the &lt;em&gt;Textus Receptus&lt;/em&gt;, it was believed that these verses did not exist in the original manuscripts that the apostles wrote &amp;amp; were added by eager scribes &amp;amp; priests sometime between the 3&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;rd&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; century &amp;amp; the 5&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;th&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; This was the prevailing theory up until the 1960's.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; All the modern translations which were written during this time are based on the Westcott &amp;amp; Hort Greek text including the American Standard Version (ASV), the New International Version (NIV), the New World Translation (NWT) &amp;amp; even the New KJV (NKJV)&lt;sup&gt;1&lt;/sup&gt;, because the codices were considered more accurate.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Even today, look for Acts 8:37 in most of these Bibles &amp;amp; you will see that it skips directly from 8:36 to 8:38 without the proclamation of the deity of Christ by the Ethiopian.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_If1j1b_afts/SjZoi0Nqe5I/AAAAAAAAAAk/xPqx5VzjCCw/s1600-h/NTpapyrus.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 208px; FLOAT: left; HEIGHT: 94px; CURSOR: hand" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5347576554889837458" border="0" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_If1j1b_afts/SjZoi0Nqe5I/AAAAAAAAAAk/xPqx5VzjCCw/s320/NTpapyrus.gif" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Oxford Papyri-&lt;/strong&gt;This fragment known as the Oxford Papyri or P-64, may be the oldest NT text ever found. For centuries scholars have believed that the NT Gospels were not written by the Apostles in the 1st c. but were passed on by word of mouth from generation to generation for 100 years to be finally penned by scribes some time in the 2nd c.AD. This papyrus text dated to cAD50, a mere 20 years after the crucifixion, seems to provide proof that at least the Gospel of Matthew was an eyewitness account, written by a disciple who lived during the days when Christ Himself was on earth.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt; For more see: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://newsletters.cephasministry.com/papyrus6.99.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;http://newsletters.cephasministry.com/papyrus6.99.html&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;However, since Westcott &amp;amp; Hort's time, some 150 years of scholarship &amp;amp; textual discoveries have taken place.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Currently there now exist over 24,000 fragments &amp;amp; complete texts of the New Testament, many dating to even earlier than the &lt;em&gt;Alexandrian Codices&lt;/em&gt;.&amp;nbsp; There is even a tiny fragment of the Gospel of Matthew dating to cAD 50 (see photo), a mere twenty or so years after the crucifixion of Christ.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; From this assemblage of 24,000 documents, scholars have constructed what is now called &lt;em&gt;The Majority Text&lt;/em&gt;, with each book, passage &amp;amp; quote rated with a percentage of how many of the 24,000 agree with each reading.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; By &amp;amp; large, with 90%+ certainty, the &lt;em&gt;Textus Receptus&lt;/em&gt; &amp;amp; therefore the KJV has been vindicated as the more authoritative text.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; To date, the &lt;em&gt;Vaticanis&lt;/em&gt; &amp;amp; the &lt;em&gt;Sinaiticus&lt;/em&gt; are unique in their reading &lt;em&gt;in toto&lt;/em&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; In fact, it has been discovered that many, if not all of the passages altered or missing from these codices were in fact quoted by the early church fathers as far back as the late 1&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;st&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; century.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; For instance, if one reads Irenaeus' &lt;em&gt;Against Heresies&lt;/em&gt; 3.10.5-6, he states, "Furthermore, near the end of his Gospel, Mark says: 'thus, after the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven, and sits on the right hand of God.'" quoting Mark 16:19.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Irenaeus wrote this in AD180, some 200 years &lt;em&gt;before&lt;/em&gt; the &lt;em&gt;Alexandrian Codices&lt;/em&gt;, yet he quotes word for word all the verses from the missing part of Mark which were supposedly not to have been added until the 4&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;th&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; or 5&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;th&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; centuries.&amp;nbsp; How could this be?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Discounting the notion that Iranaeus was psychic, how could he quote a passage that supposedly did not yet exist?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Why was this clearly existing passage missing from the "more authoritative" Alexandrian texts?&amp;nbsp; Scholars, scratching their heads, still debate, but an explanation has come forward.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;With the discovery of the Nag Hammadi Gnostic Library in the 1940's, it became clear that the early unorthodox sect known as the "Gnostics" did not believe in the deity of Jesus Christ.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Nor did they really believe in His humanity either.&amp;nbsp; They believed He was a "guiding spirit" sent to earth by the "True God" (not the YHWH of the Old Testament, incidently, whom they considered to be a blind, insane angel who created the material world against Sophia's or "Wisdom" i.e. the True God's will).&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Jesus' mission according to the Gnostics, was to impart special knowledge or "Gnosis" to spirits trapped in this material world seeking release.&amp;nbsp; Thus, Jesus never died on the cross, was never resurrected, was not God, nor was He human.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Mysteriously, but rather conveniently, all the altered or missing texts in the Alexandrian Codices always happen to involve one or a combination of these subjects.&amp;nbsp; Consider: where was the center of operations for this unorthodox sect?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Alexandria, Egypt.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Now, the pieces fall into place. All these "missing" verses were in the original texts written by the apostles.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; The older manuscripts &amp;amp; the many quotes from the 1&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;st&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; and 2&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;nd&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; century church fathers more than confirm that as fact.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; However, since these verses did not agree with the theology being taught by the Gnostics, when they made their own Coptic copies of the Greek originals, they conveniently altered or deleted them to suit their own ideas of what God should say.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Westcott &amp;amp; Hort, along with many in Victorian Era England such as Arthur Conan Doyle, Charles Darwin (a divinity school graduate) &amp;amp; HG Wells, were caught up in the occult, spiritism &amp;amp; secular humanist questioning of the validity of orthodox Christianity typical of the time.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; These corrupted Coptic texts easily appealed to Westcott &amp;amp; Hort's own sensibilities (as testified to by their surviving correspondence with each other).&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Nevertheless, they did indeed make an excellent Greek translation of what knowingly or unknowingly was a horrendous, blasphemous, heavily edited &amp;amp; thus corrupted Coptic translation of a Greek original.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The King James Translation is not without its flaws &amp;amp; shortcomings, not the least of which is its translation of the language used of future technologies into what is now archaic 1611 terminology.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Ezekiel 39:3 is an excellant example of this.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; The passage, especially when cross-referenced with Jeremiah 50:9, clearly indicates a technology similar to today's "smart" missles.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; However, the KJV translators rendered a Hebrew word for "missle" as "arrow" since an arrow was pretty much the most advanced missle of the time.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Similarly, the Hebrew word for a "launcher" is rendered as "bow" since that was the launching device for an arrow.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; The whole picture in Hebrew is of a projectile shot from a launching device.&amp;nbsp; The Hebrew is not as specific as "arrow" or "bow."&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Thus, today, this text mightly justifiably be rendered as: "And I will smite thy launcher out of thy left hand, and will cause thine missles to fall out of thy right hand."&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Importantly, however, these flaws &amp;amp;&amp;nbsp; shortcomings, having been studied for almost 400 years, are well known, documented &amp;amp; amazingly few &amp;amp; far between, numbering perhaps ten with only one potentially impacting doctrine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;All in all, the work of the Authorized Version is considered to be the highest achievement in the English language &amp;amp;&amp;nbsp; has held its own for these 400 years.&amp;nbsp; Nowhere else will you find the majesty &amp;amp;&amp;nbsp; depth of language worthy of the Word of God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;for more on the corruption in the New KJV, see also&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.geocities.com/benwebb.geo/faithofChrist.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;http://www.geocities.com/benwebb.geo/faithofChrist.html&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;sup&gt;1&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.chick.com/ask/articles/nkjvtext.asp"&gt;http://www.chick.com/ask/articles/nkjvtext.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/598228338802252094-233053706712487640?l=eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/feeds/233053706712487640/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2009/06/textus-receptus-vs-alexandrian-codices.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/233053706712487640'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/598228338802252094/posts/default/233053706712487640'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eternalanswersministry.blogspot.com/2009/06/textus-receptus-vs-alexandrian-codices.html' title='Textus Receptus vs Alexandrian Codices'/><author><name>Eternal Answers Ministry</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03052771297282180503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='22' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_If1j1b_afts/TEGxVIMSGyI/AAAAAAAAAA0/E7CiexLFoKQ/S220/logo4.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_If1j1b_afts/SjZoi0Nqe5I/AAAAAAAAAAk/xPqx5VzjCCw/s72-c/NTpapyrus.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry></feed>
